1) In Vietnam our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers in shame and humiliation. It isnt happening now but I will tell you there has never been an American army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq." Seymour Hersh
2) I havent seen American Sniper but correct me if Im wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul." Max Blumenthal
3) Put a man in uniform preferably a white man give him a gun and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait of a childlike culture that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as heroes. The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism chauvinism authoritarianism and totalitarianism but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible…." -- David Masciotra at Salon
4) American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side there were foul racism vengeful refusals to take prisoners a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war." James Carrollin the Boston Globe
5) …(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon support the troops magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons we find a way to deal with our guilt as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.
I will never say support the troops. I dont believe in the validity of that statement. People say I dont support the war I support the troops as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics give up our political affiliations in favor of just supporting the troops. I wish everything were that easy." Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian
6) Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why in 2009 we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves. Bill Maher
7) My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers arent heroes. And invaders r worse." Michael Moore
8) What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that theres not more outrage about the number and the brutality and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh from other countries particularly Arab countries like Al - like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity…." Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley
9) Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)" Stan Goff at the Huffington Post
10) Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…
This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you dont trust…
Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them youre hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat." A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War
11) THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians todays volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits…." David M. Kennedy in the New York Times
12) You know education if you make the most of it if you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart uh you you can do well. If you dont you get stuck in Iraq." John Kerry
13) If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq." Charles Rangel
14) For someone who was responsible for again nobody knows but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest for example would find completely understandable. Its called doing penance John. You dont bomb and kill people for no reason even when corporate America or your daddy who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces South Pacific forces orders you to do it. You cant just take orders we decided that at Nuremberg. So if you suffered I am sorry for your suffering I truly am in and of itself but John-John-John did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians you know." Mike Malloy
15) Im putting my life at risk literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and Im like wow this is like being a police officer or something in war or something." Kanye West
16) (Its) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor without invoking the words heroes. I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war." Chris Hayes
17) Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha
18) The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan." Code Pink
19) A lot of (Kyles) stories when he was back home in Texas a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these you know killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used people have described as racist. -- MSNBCs Ayman Mohyeldin
20) Real freedom will come when U.S. soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors." Warren County Community College adjunct English professor John Daly
21) I dont want to sound like an ad a public service ad on TV but the fact is if you can read you can walk into a job later on. If you dont then youve got the Army Iraq I dont know something like that. Its its not as bright. So thats my little commercial for that." Stephen King
22) Through every Abu aib and Haditha through every rape and murder the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage take care of their families provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them we support them in every possible way and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…The recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary oops sorry volunteer force that thinks it is doing the dirty work." Washington Post blogger William Arkin
23) I think Bowe Bergdahl if he deserted is a hero I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters." Bill Ayers
24) Do our governments poorly paid contract killers deserve our support for blindly following orders?" Ted Rall
25) For those of you who do as a matter of principle oppose war in any form the idea of supporting a conscientious objector whos already been inducted and in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadnt conscientiously objected but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?"
Later in a question-and-answer period Churchill was asked whether the trauma fragging" inflicts on that officers family back home should be considered he responded: How do you feel about Adolf Eichmanns family?" From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily
John Hawkins runs Right Wing News and Linkiest. Hes also the co-owner of the The Looking Spoon. You can see more from John Hawkins on Facebook Twitter Pinterest G You Tube and at PJ Media.
1) In Vietnam our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers in shame and humiliation. It isnt happening now but I will tell you there has never been an American army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq." Seymour Hersh
2) I havent seen American Sniper but correct me if Im wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul." Max Blumenthal
3) Put a man in uniform preferably a white man give him a gun and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait of a childlike culture that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as heroes. The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism chauvinism authoritarianism and totalitarianism but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible…." -- David Masciotra at Salon
4) American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side there were foul racism vengeful refusals to take prisoners a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war." James Carrollin the Boston Globe
5) …(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon support the troops magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons we find a way to deal with our guilt as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.
I will never say support the troops. I dont believe in the validity of that statement. People say I dont support the war I support the troops as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics give up our political affiliations in favor of just supporting the troops. I wish everything were that easy." Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian
6) Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why in 2009 we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves. Bill Maher
7) My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers arent heroes. And invaders r worse." Michael Moore
8) What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that theres not more outrage about the number and the brutality and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh from other countries particularly Arab countries like Al - like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity…." Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley
9) Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)" Stan Goff at the Huffington Post
10) Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…
This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you dont trust…
Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them youre hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat." A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War
11) THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians todays volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits…." David M. Kennedy in the New York Times
12) You know education if you make the most of it if you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart uh you you can do well. If you dont you get stuck in Iraq." John Kerry
13) If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq." Charles Rangel
14) For someone who was responsible for again nobody knows but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest for example would find completely understandable. Its called doing penance John. You dont bomb and kill people for no reason even when corporate America or your daddy who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces South Pacific forces orders you to do it. You cant just take orders we decided that at Nuremberg. So if you suffered I am sorry for your suffering I truly am in and of itself but John-John-John did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians you know." Mike Malloy
15) Im putting my life at risk literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and Im like wow this is like being a police officer or something in war or something." Kanye West
16) (Its) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor without invoking the words heroes. I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war." Chris Hayes
17) Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha
18) The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan." Code Pink
19) A lot of (Kyles) stories when he was back home in Texas a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these you know killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used people have described as racist. -- MSNBCs Ayman Mohyeldin
20) Real freedom will come when U.S. soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors." Warren County Community College adjunct English professor John Daly
21) I dont want to sound like an ad a public service ad on TV but the fact is if you can read you can walk into a job later on. If you dont then youve got the Army Iraq I dont know something like that. Its its not as bright. So thats my little commercial for that." Stephen King
22) Through every Abu aib and Haditha through every rape and murder the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage take care of their families provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them we support them in every possible way and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…The recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary oops sorry volunteer force that thinks it is doing the dirty work." Washington Post blogger William Arkin
23) I think Bowe Bergdahl if he deserted is a hero I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters." Bill Ayers
24) Do our governments poorly paid contract killers deserve our support for blindly following orders?" Ted Rall
25) For those of you who do as a matter of principle oppose war in any form the idea of supporting a conscientious objector whos already been inducted and in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadnt conscientiously objected but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?"
Later in a question-and-answer period Churchill was asked whether the trauma fragging" inflicts on that officers family back home should be considered he responded: How do you feel about Adolf Eichmanns family?" From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily
John Hawkins runs Right Wing News and Linkiest. Hes also the co-owner of the The Looking Spoon. You can see more from John Hawkins on Facebook Twitter Pinterest G You Tube and at PJ Media.
