We just learned of an alleged unauthorized disposal of Federal records."
By Rusty Weiss
Texas Insider Report: WASHINGTON D.C. Archivist David Ferriero testified on Capitol Hill Tuesday June 24 that
the IRS did not follow the law" when they
failed to report Lois Lerners lost e-mails to the National Archives & Records Administration (NARA). During an exchange with Congressman Tim Walberg (left R-MI.
see in-article
video) Ferriero testified the IRS has violated the Federal Records Act
requiring any agency to notify us when they realize they have a problem that could be destruction or disposal unauthorized disposal
whether the loss was purposeful or accidental.
The National Archives & Records Administration (NARA)
sent a letter to the IRS last week stating that they had just learned of an alleged unauthorized disposal of Federal records" by the agency.
Ferreiro testified today that the NARA was not made aware of Lois Lerners lost e-mails or the subsequent destruction of her hard drive.
When asked if by Walberg if it was safe to say the law had been broken Ferriero responded They did not follow the law."
The video of the exchange can be seen below …
A transcript of the relevant Q&A follows:
Walberg: Thank you Mr. Chairman Mr. Ferriero just to review a bit in your testimony you state that when agencies become aware of unauthorized destruction of federal records that they are required to report the incidents to the Archives. At any time in 2011 through last Monday did the IRS report any loss of records related to Lois Lerner?
Ferriero: No.
Walberg: Is it fair to say that the IRS broke the Federal Records Act?
Ferriero: They are required any agency is required to notify us when they realize they have a problem that could be destruction or disposal unauthorized disposal.
Walberg: But they didnt do that?
Ferriero: Thats right.
Walberg: Did they break the law?
Ferrerio: Im not a lawyer.
Walberg: But you administer the Federal Records Act.
Ferriero: I do.
Walberg: If they didnt follow it can we safely assume they broke the law?
Ferriero: They did not follow the law.
The Justice Department lists a set of risks for the poor management of records through the Federal Records Act which include Criminal or civil penalties fines and/or imprisonment."
Earlier testimony by IRS Commissioner John Koskinen indicates the IRS did not try to recover Lerners e-mails from the backup tapes that existed at the time. The following exchange was between Koskinen and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (right R-UT):
Chaffetz: But its backed up on tape.
Koskinen: For six months yes.
Chaffetz: And that was within the six month window so why didnt you get them off the backup?
Koskinen: All I know about that is that the backup tapes are disaster recovery tapes that put everything in one lump and extracting individual emails out of that is very costly and difficult. And that was not the policy at the time.
Chaffetz: Did anybody try?
Koskinen: I have no idea or indication that they did.
Lois Lerners computer crashed in 2011 just two weeks after an initial inquiry into possible targeting in the agency had been made.
Still nobody in the IRS made an effort to recover her e-mails from the archived disaster recovery tapes. Additionally no officials in the department attempted to alert the NARA of the computer crash which led to her hard drive being recycled a criminal violation.